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Re: EuropeanCourtHR: "Armenian Deportation Is Not a Genocide

Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 16 Eki 2015, 16:51

Armenian Bishop yazdı:Perinçek's victory serves the vested interests of the Turkish State. You said it this way: "This international case is now ended in the victory of the Turk State!" I wonder whether he cut a deal, when he was released --- maybe, or maybe not.


I advise you to not play the dumb figure. It is obvious you know very well who Doğu Perinçek is. Else, you would not write such a sneaky evil minded comment. The Turk Armed Forces put an end to the reign of the failing AKP government. Doğu Perinçek was convicted by the US puppets(AKP, FETHULLAHIST TERRORIST ORGANIZATION, ETC.), and is released by the WILL OF THE DEMOCRATIC NOBLE TURK NATION. Not only he, hundreds of PATRIOTIC COMMANDERS WERE RELEASED FROM THE FAKED UP CASES LIKE ERGENEKON, BALYOZ. THE US PUPPETS EVEN TRIED TO TAKE DOWN THE SPORT CLUB FENERBAHÇE, BUT WE MUST REALIZE THAT IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THE US GOVERNMENT LOST THE BATTLE IN THE MIDDLE EAST AGAINST THE GREAT TURK ARMY! THAT IS WHY DOĞU PERİNÇEK WAS RELEASED.

Armenian Bishop yazdı:Yes, Doğu Perinçek did win a battle against the Swiss Courts and the recognition of the Armenian Genocide


Admitting is a graceful way of living. Admit it, you worship the institutes like the EHCR. And this EHCR is like a GOD to you, so please follow his decisions if you are a good pure minded gracious person.
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Re: EuropeanCourtHR: "Armenian Deportation Is Not a Genocide

Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 16 Eki 2015, 17:00

Armenian Bishop yazdı:The ECHR decision basically is a controversial ruling, based upon "free expression," which has given Perinçek permission to lie and fib about his Armenian Genocide Denial Agenda, until the cows come home. It didn't have any direct bearing upon the Armenian Genocide itself. The ECHR has ruled over a dispute between Switzerland and Perinçek, and based its decision upon free expression, not the historical validity of the Armenian Genocide.


One: Amal Clooney, was an official representive of the Armenian state

Two: In the previous posts i have described very detailed, to comment in a short manner, The EHCR says that the international/imperialist lies CAN NOT BE DEFINED AS GENOCIDE. They also say that it is not the same and has nothing to do with the Holocaust Genocide performed by the Neo Nazi movement which were puppets of the US and UK. As you probably know, for the EHCR the legal term of "genocide" is equal to the "Holocaust Genocide". So, make a mathematical calculation, if you have the proper hearth for it, and decide what kind of conclusion to make from this situation.

Three: This case was so important, not only the Armenian state became participants of the case, but also official representives of the Switzerland, France and Türkiye states participated.

CONLUSION: EHCR CLEARLY CONCLUDES THAT THERE IS NO GENOCIDE PERFORMED ON THE ARMENIANS DURING THE FIRST WW.
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Re: EuropeanCourtHR: "Armenian Deportation Is Not a Genocide

Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 16 Eki 2015, 17:02

Queen B yazdı:Exactly. The case is between Perincek and Switzerland, regarding the freedom of expression.
Nothing more, nothing less.


HAHAHAAHAHA, CRY BABY.
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Re: EuropeanCourtHR: "Armenian Deportation Is Not a Genocide

Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 16 Eki 2015, 17:07

Armenian Bishop yazdı:A Statement Released from the Official Website of Armenia's Prosecutor General Proclaimed that the ECHR Court Ruling is "very good" for Armenia:

“Armenia intervened in the case for one reason: the lower court had cast doubt on the fact that a genocide against the Armenian people occurred in 1915. As counsel we sought to correct this grave error, and the Grand Chamber has done so. Today’s judgment did not dispute the fact of the Armenian genocide: Ten judges said the question should not have been addressed at all whilst seven stated that ‘the Armenian genocide is a clearly established historic fact.’”

http://armenianweekly.com/2015/10/15/echr-decision-in-perspective/


Keep on further with your lieing pathetic comments. The justice systems of the Armenian, US and West European governments may be very corrupted, but the European Court of Human Rights has performed a very surprisingly honourfull act, with the clearly conclusive declaration that there was no genocide performed on the Armenians.

STATEMENT 1:

The Court took the view that the term “genocide” as used in the relevant Article of the Swiss Criminal Code was likely to raise doubts as to the precision required by Article 10 § 2 of the Convention.

STATEMENT 2:

The Court pointed out that it was not called upon to address either the veracity of the massacres and deportations perpetrated against the Armenian people by the Ottoman Empire from 1915 onwards, or the appropriateness of legally characterising those acts as “genocide”, within the meaning of the relevant Article of the Criminal Code.

STATEMENT 3:

In this connection, the Court clearly distinguished the present case from those concerning the negation of the crimes of the Holocaust.
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Re: EuropeanCourtHR: "Armenian Deportation Is Not a Genocide

Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 16 Eki 2015, 18:21

Armenian Bishop yazdı:That is plain ridiculous! I saw that movie before most people in this forum were even born, and I read the biography of Lawrence. It was an alliance for the liberation of the Arabian and Levantine Peoples, facilitated by the British Empire.

The Arabs were partners with the British, not slaves to them. They formed an alliance with the British, in defiance of the despotism exhibited by the Ottoman Empire, during World War I. :coffee:


Hahahahaaha, liberation, partners, are you joking me, please dont lower the level of the conversation, it is very annoying, lol.

Tell me something, how liberate are the Arabs today in Palestine and Iraq? Why are dozens sometimes hundreds of Muslims, especially Arabs being killed every day? It is because of the slavery system of the British and today of the US. The Arabs thought they will get freedom from the British, but were in such a great treason against the Ottoman Turks, that they had to pay it with a very high price tens of years later after the First World War. Look at what happened Algeria, Lybia, and all other Arabian countries which were enslaved by the British in the last decades beginning from the 1920's until now. The Arabs are stupid if they think that the UK and the US did give freedom to them, if they do it on purpose then are traitors and proud slaves of the UK and US states. The same counts for the Armenian and Greek populations. Why are the states of Armenia and Greece so poor? Tell me what is the reason for this? What other purpose, goal or vision does the Armenian and Greek states have except their hate crime speeches against us Turks? Did the British and the Americans give the Greek, Armenian and Arabs freedom today? Are their people and states wealthy and rich? The answer is pretty straight forward: NO!
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Re: EuropeanCourtHR: "Armenian Deportation Is Not a Genocide

Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 16 Eki 2015, 18:39

Armenian Bishop yazdı:Yes, Very True! The historical legacy of Armenian Civilization has stretched itself all the way from the Caspian Sea to the Mediterranean Sea. One only needs to look at historical maps of the region.


Lol, you are so empty.

Answer me this question, who are and what is the ethnic ancestry of the historical persons from China/Central Asia named "Mamik and Konak"(Mamikonian Dynasty)? Why are the Arsacids(Arsacid Dynasty) of Scythian/Sakha origin? Why is it so obvious and clear that the Scythian/Sakha's were of Hun-Turk origin?
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Re: EuropeanCourtHR: "Armenian Deportation Is Not a Genocide

Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 16 Eki 2015, 18:41

King Niko yazdı:It was a genocide, can we just move on now? Seriously..

Armenians were not perfect either during these times either, but can we just move on? It was a century ago for fuck sake.


Stop the madness and the hate crime feelings, you cannot divide the noble Turk state with such lies. The ECHR is like a GOD to your kind, follow the conclusion they made, THERE IS NO GENOCIDE COMMITTED AGAINST THE ARMENIANS!
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Re: EuropeanCourtHR: "Armenian Deportation Is Not a Genocide

Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 17 Eki 2015, 02:51

Raine yazdı:Greece is still richer than Turkey and always have been. Compared to the wide world it is not poor.



Very irrelevant and meaningless comment, you did not understand the point. Greece was a puppet of the British during the 1st WW only to be used against Türkiye, has no other functions. Greece is now a puppet of the US only to be used against Türkiye, has no other functions. Now, TODAY looking at all the EFFORTS OF GREECE, what did they achieve in such a historical period of almost 100 years of being a proud slave of the British and the US? The Greeks DID NOT ACHIEVE ANYHTING, ON THE CONTRARY, THEY WERE PROMISED TO LIVE A RICH AND WHEALTY LIFE BY THEIR UK AND US MASTERS, BUT IN STEAD WERE FOOLED BY THEIR MASTERS JUST LIKE THE ARMENIAN STATE, AND LOOK AT THEIR ECONOMY TODAY, THEY ARE POOR, THEIR PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING. ACCEPT THE OBVIOUS FACT, GREECE AND ARMENIA ARE TRUE PROUD SLAVES OF THE US AND THE UK, THEY HAVE NO INTENTIONS FOR THE ECONOMY OF THEIR OWN DEMOCRATIC GREEK NATION! AS A TURK, I ADVISE ALL ARMENIANS AND GREEKS TO BAN THE US AND UK, AND PLEASE STOP THE MADNESS OF THE HATE CRIME ACTS AGAINST THE TURKS, AND START BUILDING YOUR OWN DEMOCRATIC FULLY INDEPENDENT STATE!
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Re: EuropeanCourtHR: "Armenian Deportation Is Not a Genocide

Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 17 Eki 2015, 03:04

King Niko yazdı:Turks did much more too Armenians, as even Ataturk himself stated and talked how Turks committed a genocide.


This statement shows clearly that you are a Turk hating simple liar. Be ashamed to give such a ridiculous argument based on your own fabricated imaginery lie.


Read the following statements of my father Atatürk:

Atatürk "Ermeni Yalanı" iddialarına ilişkin soruya ne yanıt vermişti

Devlet yetkililerinin ve tarihçilerin çeşitli açıklamalar yaptığı 1915 olaylarına ilişkin Mustafa Kemal Atatürk’ün görüşleri merak konusu oldu.

“Ermeni Yalanı” iddiaları yüzüncü yıl nedeniyle son zamanlarda gündemde oldukça geniş yer tuttu. Devlet yetkililerinin ve tarihçilerin çeşitli açıklamalar yaptığı 1915 olaylarına ilişkin Mustafa Kemal Atatürk’ün görüşleri merak konusu oldu.

Atatürk, 26 Şubat 1921’de Amerikalı gazeteci Streit ile yaptığı mülakat sırasında 1915 olaylarına ilişkin açıklamalarda bulunmuştu.

Kaynak Yayınları’ndan çıkan “Atatürk’ün Bütün Eserleri” çalışmasının 11. cildinin 60, 61 ve 62 sayfalarında yer alan bu röportajda, Atatürk “Dünya kamuoyu, Ermeni ahalisinin tehciri hususunda almaya mecbur kaldığımız karar için bize karşı haklı bir ithamda bulunamaz” demişti.

‘ERMENİ AHALİSİNİN TEHCİRİ HUSUSUNDA…’

Mustafa Kemal, gazeteci Streit’in “Harbi Umumi esnasında yapıldığı mütemadiyen ağızlarda dolaşan Ermeni katliam ve tehciri hakkında hükümetinizin resmi görüşü nedir?” sorusuna şöyle yanıt vermişti:

“Rus ordusu 1915’te bize karşı büyük taarruzunu başlattığı bir sırada o zaman Çarlığın hizmetinde bulunan Taşnak Ermeni Komitesi, askeri birliklerimizin gerisinde bulunan Ermeni ahalisini isyan ettirmişti. Düşmanın sayı ve malzeme üstünlüğü karşısında çekilmeye mecbur kaldığımız için kendimizi daima iki ateş arasında kalmış gibi görüyorduk. İkmal ve yaralı konvoylarımız acımasız şekilde katlediliyor, gerimizdeki köprüler ve yollar tahrip ediliyor ve Türk köylerinde terör hüküm sürdürülüyordu.

Bu cinayetleri işleyen ve saflarına eli silah tutabilen bütün Ermenileri katan çeteler, silah, cephane ve iaşe ikmallerini bazı büyük devletlerin daha barış zamanından beri kendilerine kapitülasyonların bahşettiği dokunulmazlıklardan istifade ederek ve bu maksada yönelik olarak büyük stoklar husule getirmeye muvaffak oldukları Ermeni köylerinden yapıyorlardı.

İngiltere’nin barış zamanında ve harp sahasından uzak olarak İrlanda’ya reva gördüğü muameleye hemen hemen kayıtsız bir şekilde bakan dünya kamuoyu, Ermeni ahalisinin tehciri hususunda almaya mecbur kaldığımız karar için bize karşı haklı bir ithamda bulunamaz. Bize karşı yapılmış olan iftiraların aksine, tehcir edilmiş olanlar hayattadır ve bunlardan çoğu, şayet İtilaf devletleri bizi tekrar harp etmeye zorlamasa idi, evlerine dönmüş olurlardı.”

‘AMERİKALI GENERAL HARBORD ŞAHİDİMİZDİR’

Gazeteci Streit’in “Ermeniler ve Rumlar tarafından Türklere karşı vukuu rivayet edilen katliam hakkında ne gibi malumat verebilirsiniz?” sorusuna ise Atatürk şu yanıtı vermişti:

“Gerek Umumi harp sırasında gerek Mütareke’den sonra Ermeniler ve Rumlar tarafından Müslüman ahaliye yapılan zulümler üzerinde durmak uzun bir hikaye olur. Brest-Litovsk Antlaşması’nın yapılmasını müteakip Rusların Doğu vilayetlerimizi tahliyeye başladıkları sırada Ermeni çetelerinin yapmış oldukları katliam ve tahribat kafi derecede herkesin malumudur. Sivas’ta benimle görüşmüş olan, daha sonra bu bölgeleri ziyaret etmiş eden ve buralarda Ermeni çetelerinin davranışları hususunda tafsilatlı gözlemlerde bulunarak daha sonra kendisine bu konuda anlatmış olduğum şeylerin doğru olduğunu Amerikalı General Harbord, Amerikan kamuoyunun kendisinden faydalı malumat temin edebileceği bir şahidimizdir. Taşnaklar daha sonra da Kars ve Oltu bölgelerinde Alexandropol Antlaşması’nın yapılmasına kadar cinayetlerine devam etmişlerdir” diyerek yanıtlamıştı.

‘WİLSON PROJESİ SADECE GÜLÜNÇTÜR’

Atatürk, “Wilson Ermenistan sınırları hakkındaki fikriniz nedir?” şeklindeki soruyu da şöyle yanıtlamıştı:

“Ermenistan birkaç günden beri tekrar Taşnakların eline düşmüştür. Alexandropol Antlaşması’nı samimiyetle tatbik mevkiine koyacak her Ermeni hükümeti dostluğumuza güvenebilir. Milyonlarca Türk’ü binlerce Ermeni’nin hakimiyetine terk etmeye kalkışan Wilson projesi sadece gülünçtür” diye cevap vermişti.

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Re: EuropeanCourtHR: "Armenian Deportation Is Not a Genocide

Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 17 Eki 2015, 03:08

Armenian Bishop yazdı:The Extra Large Font is Appropriate, because the guy has been Blinded by his own Bias, Prejudicial Judgments, Extreme Turkish Nationalism, and Armenian Genocide Denial Agenda. Such is the case with many others whom share his sentiment.


Repeating the obvious facts for such super morons like yourself is useless, read my previous posts, and accept the fact, if your hearth has not become dark for 100%.
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