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Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 20 Haz 2015, 16:34

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Imam yazdı:Unlike wannabe Turks, real Turks are Muslim. Because since the beginning days of Turkey, Islam always exist. Turkey is based on Islam; the reason why Muslim Seljuk did Jihad and conquered Asia Minor. To spread Islam and create a new Islamic state.


1. Christianity and Turks
Are the Christian Chuvash, Gagauz, Bulgar and Karamani not of Turk origin?

2. Judaism and Turks
Are the Khazars who believed in Judaism and their present day direct descendants the Karai's not of Turk origin? Did you know that the Selcukids believed in the Judaism in their first period when they were part of the Khazar Empire?

3. Buddhism and Turks
Where the 13th century Uygurs who believed in Buddhism not of Turk origin?

4. SKY TENGRI and Turks
Were the Turks, Huns and Sakha's who believed in the SKY TENGRI religion until around the 11th century AD not of Turk origin?

5. DİNGİR and Sumerians
Were the Sumerians who believed in the DİNGİR(=TENGRI) religion not of Turk origin? Did you know that many facts like the the Flood of Noah, in the Kuran and the books of the Judaism and Christianity, were also present in the tablet findings of the Sumerians whom described the religion of the Sumerians?

Witness yazdı:Officially it isn't, in practice Islam is important of course.

This is correct point. The spread of Turks from Central asia to here and further to Balkans was a jihad.


What about the Turk Nationalizm and Peaceful Good Intended Humanizm spread by the first Turk Muslims like Hallacı Mansur, Hoca Ahmed Yesevi and Hacı Bektaş Veli? What i am trying to tell is that altough the religion of the Turks changed, their belief system and their culture did not change. There is no difference between "KÖK TENGRI" and "ALLAH". Majority of the Turks always believed in a religion with "ONE GOD".

The Seljukids became succesful, because they preserved the ancient Turk Culture and saved and resurrected the Real Islam of our Prophet Hazreti Muhammed(S.A.V.), from the Omayyadi fake Muslims.
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Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 20 Haz 2015, 16:59

Nabatea1 yazdı:It's secular, but Islam is clearly important in many peoples lives there it seems.


The management system of a state, and the religion of a nation are two seperate things. We must not forget the fact the Islam and our belief in ALLAH is our greatest holy value. Because of this importance, religion can be used by the elite politicians to increase their material individual interests. Historical and presentday events show that the Islam is being used by traitors(majority of present day political leaders) whom are working secretly with Christian and Jewish states. Our father Atatürk saw this threat, and seperated the Islam and the Management of the State. Instead a system of an Islamic Ministrie has been used. The final Ottoman sultans like Vahdettin were important examples of how the Islam was being used by traitors that worked secretly with enemy states like England.

Also, not to forget the fact that Turks have read the Kuran for centuries without understanding the holy messages given by ALLAH to us to understand and implement these. Tell me, how can the people of a nation understand the Islam, if they are reading the Holy Kuran only like a parrot and not understand a single word in it? Atatürk saw this threat, and made many translation projects of the Holy Kuran, and even Ezan(Call to Prayer) was translated to the Turk language, to force people to understand the real contents of the Kuran. But an important dumb group of people did not understand these holy revolutions Atatürk making. These people were used by intelligence agencies of enemy England and US for decades until the presentday, and these traitors became the politcal leaders of the state since the US coup detat in 1980. But the system of the Atatürkist Turkish Armed Forces was always the real ruler behind the curtains of the Turk State which succesfully defended the full independence of our state until presentday.

Also, please have a look at the picture of the founding leader of El Kaide, Osama Bin Laden, with the CIA agent Zbigniew Brzezinski. This picture is a real proof of how the fake Muslims that use the Islam for their own benefits(to become more and more rich) are puppets of the enemy Christian US state. Real Muslims and Real Turks cannot be defined by the actions of puppets and traitors whom are using the Islam for their own benefits.

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Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 20 Haz 2015, 17:36

Alially yazdı:Turkey is a Muslim country, but how many of them Turks? Turkey is Turks land you said but is it still all?When i looked at elections map year by year Turkish parties area are decreasing the areas. Therefore Turks World is getting bigger or Smaller?


The historical science is a decissive factor in this matter. The Ottoman Archives of between 1400 - 1700 AD, shows in total 41.295 tribes in the Türkiye region. 37.577 of these 41.297 tribes were of Turk origin(Oghuz and Kipchak), which is equal to 91.0% of the population in Türkiye. 2.287 tribes were of Kürt origin, which is equal to 5.5% of the population in Türkiye.

For more detailed information look at the descriptions at 15. - 17. Yüzyıllarında Anadolu'da Aşiretlerin Etnik Yapısı and Türkmenler ve Ermeni Dönmeler.

Also not to forget the fact that during the building of the On-Oguria / Hungary state in the 9th century AD(Around 830), 7 of the 9 building tribes were of Turk-Hun origin: Kabar, Kürt, Gyarmat, Taryan, Yene, Ker and Keszi. Out of these 7 tribes, one tribe had the name "Kürt", which means that both the Turks and the Kurts are of Hun-Sakha origin.
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Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 20 Haz 2015, 17:42

Witness yazdı:Kemalists aren't Muslims that's right but most Turanists are Grey Wolves and Grey Wolves are Islamic.


No, this is not the reality. Atatürk was a Muslim and the Atatürkists of presentday are also Muslims. People can not measure how much Muslim other groups of people are, the believe in Islam is not a show, it is between ALLAH and the persons believing in ALLAH.
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Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 20 Haz 2015, 17:48

ius semper yazdı:Look at their flag and you'll know


The flag of Türkiye is of Pre-Islam Turk origin. The Turks in the 6th century AD used this flag in national coins:

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Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 20 Haz 2015, 17:53

Witness yazdı:Ardahanlı Gürcü değilmiydin sen, senden ala hewal mi var. Yazdığım gerçek, cahil olanların durumu müstesna. Kemalizm'i bilerek Kemalist olanlar Müslüman değil.


Atatürk'ün asil kişiliğini bilipte, Atatürk'ten nefret edenler, sizden daha çok Türk Milliyetçisiyim, Müslümanım ve Bozkurtum diyenler, Türk de olamazlar, Müslüman da olamazlar.
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Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 20 Haz 2015, 18:02

jackrussell yazdı:Turks World is definetly getting bigger , don't let the political party representations , they do not reflect a deeper and wider truth .

How many of them are Turks you asked ; one way or the other there about 60 - 65 million people who partially or completely identify themselves as Turks .

Oghuz Turks are not the only clan of Turk to make Anatolia , Mesopotamia , Caucasia , Asia and Europe .

Kipchak Turks were there probably about 7000 years ago , at least .

Probably at least 30 % of those Kurdish Clans were originally Turks too .:)

So you get Turks becoming Kurds and Kurds becoming Turks , no one notices .

You can make your own conlusion .


I agree with your writing. By the way, in your description i see that you are of Circassian - KABARDIAN origin. What do you think about the origin of the Kabardians? Do you think it is coincidence, that the a core tribe of the Khazar Turks had the name "Kabar", and they lived in the same Caucasian regions of modern Circassians? Dont you think that this shows that Circassians also have their origins among the Huns and the Sakha's/Scythians?
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Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 20 Haz 2015, 20:37

LilOlympi yazdı:turkey supports ISIS to kill kurds what do you think?.. lol


PKK/PJK is a terrorist organization build by the CIA, and still controlled by the CIA. Just like the PKK/PJK, ASALA, El Kaide and ISIS are/were all terrorist organizations build and still controlled by the US intelligence. PKK/PJK is full with Armenians, and US and Israel soldiers, so PKK/PJK is an US financed terrorist organization, of which the primary source is drugs dealing, and PKK/PJK does NOT REPRESENT the Kurds. For example there are many terrorists like Ahmet Türk, whom are of Türkmen origin. Altough ISIS was build by the CIA, puppets tend to move from sides. During the Battle of Aynel Arab(fake name: Kobani), it was officially proven that the Delta Force unit of the US army was functioning in the hearth of the PKK/PJK. On the other side our Turkish Armed Forces used the ISIS to defend us against the national threats from US puppets. The Puppets Battle of Aynel Arab was lost by the US, which was defeated by the Turkish Armed Forces.

Ask your self, why did the US not protest against the ISIS, when they were killing so many innocent people in Iraq / Syria, and why did the US start protesting and declaring the ISIS as enemy just when ISIS came into the regions of North Iraq / Syria? It is obvious that the plan of the US(a country with many critical financial problems) was to use the ISIS eventually to divide the countries of Türkiye and Syria and build their second Israel(the goal of their Middle Eastern project), but when the Turkish Armed Forces did not allow this to happen, and began using the ISIS against the goals of the US, suddenly ISIS became the imaginery monster like Bin Laden. The US and all their puppets must know that the US army lost against the Turkish Armed Forces in the Battle of Aynel Arab(Kobani), and they do not have the power to divide our country, it is so simple, and in the near future the US army will run off from the Middle Eastern regions in which they made a genocide of 2 million innocent Iraqi Muslims. The US is failing and they do not have money, and dont have the soldiers to fight for their country, they and their puppets are doomed to loose. All Muslims should know that Türkiye is the guarantee of the security of all Muslims, never forget about this fundamental fact.
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Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 20 Haz 2015, 20:41

LilOlympi yazdı:Yea and do I deny it? Lmao Greece doesnt do it over religion.. They do it because it is morally correct to do. Kurds are brothers to Greeks..


The Kurds are of Hun-Sakha origin, they are not your brothers! Have a look at this video, and realize what will happen to the puppets of the US(Greeks, Armenians, PKK etcetera) when they attempt any unhuman terrorist action against the Turks:
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Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 20 Haz 2015, 20:46

Polk yazdı:That proves nothing when the studies have shown that the Asiatic haplogroups the original Turkics (think Manzikert-period Turkics or even before they arrived in Central Asia dominated by Iranians and Arabs) would have carried constitute only 5 to 10 percent of Turkey's population. The regions of Konstantinoupolis, Nikomedeia, Prousa, Smyrna, etc, are heavily made up of Turkified Europeans. Though that changes by the day as Turks from the poorer eastern provinces migrate westward. Your eastern compatriots are more like Middle Easterners. The 5 to 10 percent conclusion is also logical because the Turks don't carry an Asiatic appearance save for the isolated few samples. That suggest heavy interbreeding by the Turkic nomads with local Anatolian and European populations.


What are those Asiatic haplogroups, and what Y-DNA haplogroups found among the Turk of Türkiye, do you not consider as Turk origin. I can tell you confidently that 100% of the Turks in Türkiye are of the same origin with the ancient and present day Turks from Central Asia. Read the articles at the following link, Ancient DNA, for detailed information for my statement. I am ready to discuss all details with you, and proof to everyone on this forum that i am right with my statement.
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