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Re: Türk Düşmanları İle Ön-Türk Tarihi Hakkında Bir Tartışma

MesajGönderilme zamanı: 02 Tem 2015, 01:01
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The Real Genocides Committed by the West European and American Germanic States

Petros Houhoulis yazdı:Me? I wasn't writing about my country or my nationals' actions. I was talking about that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubSZWTXz_xw

We'll see if you shall get deported peacefully from the Nordic countries... Or if they shall open gas chambers again...

You are living in the Netherlands eh? You must be scared...
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showth ... cide/page2


You are a good example which proofs that racist people of institutions(with no knowledge of the obvious historical, anthorpological and genetical facts) like yourself are NOT QUALIFIED to equal other nations or historical events as genocide. Your kind knows very well that the Armenian deportation is not a genocide.

Then what is a genocide? And why do the following real genocides not get enough attention from the non scientific racist states like the US and France?

List of Real Genocides performed by West European Germanic originated states who made their states and elite companies rich by making innocent people slaves, and trading the slaves with an unhuman honourless system:

1. Dutch Genocides in Indonesia(Rawagede Genocide in 1947, Batavia Genocide in 1740)

2. French Genocides in Algeria and Rwanda(Algeria, Sétif and Guelma Genocides and the continuation of these: 1945-1962, Rwandan Genocide: 1994)

3. German Genocides in the Western European countries were Jews lived(Holocaust Genocide: 1939–1945) ==> Hitler was a British agent, and the Nazi leaders of Hitler were all secret agents of the US/UK and after the 2nd World War all these Nazi leaders were in critical duties in the US government institutions like the CIA.

4a. US American Genocides in the American continent, performed on the Native Americans and the African Americans(Hundreds of Genocides, such as the Wounded Knee Genocide in 1890, the Wiyot Genocide in 1860, and hundreds of years of African American slavery and hundreds of genocides on African Americans, and even today the statistics show that EVERY 28 HOURS 1 AFRICAN AMERICAN IS BEING KILLED ON PUPOSE BY THE RACIST POLICE OF THE US STATE)

4b. US American Genocides performed in Japan(Hiroshima Genocide in 1945), Afghanistan/Iraq(MUSLIM GENOCIDE, 2 MILLION INNOCENT MUSLIMS WERE KILLED AND THE LIFES OF MILLIONS OF OTHER MUSLIMS WERE MADE A HELL, BETWEEN 2003-2015) and Bosnia(Genocide on Muslim Bosnians in 1995, performed and setup by the CIA agents like George Soros whom openly created the Bosniac genocide with the set up of dozens of racist foundations in Jugoslavia which made the Bosniacs and Serbs hate each other, it is proven that the Dutch Army which is a puppet of the US, ourpose with orders of the US did nothing to prevent the Srebrenica genocide).

5. Genocides performed by the UK on the Indigenous Australians and Irish people, such us for example the Mistake Creek Genocide in 1915, the Bedford Downs Genocide in 1924, the Irish Potato Famine Genocide between 1845-1852.

6. Genocides performed by the Armenian state(puppets of the Russian and US states) on the Azerbaijani Turks in the Khocali Region, Within only one day at 26 February 1992 the Armenian soldiers murdered hundreds of innocent men, women, children, babies, old people who did not have the proper weapons to defend theirselves, the whole world(except the other Turk states and populations) kept quiet after the Genocide performed on the Azerbaijani Turks.

All in all, the Western European and American Germanic countries are the mother of all genocides, and devilish unhuman slave trading. ONLY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SO EXPERIENCED IN THE PERFORMING OF GENOCIDE, WILL HAVE THE URGE TO FALSELY TRY TO CHARGE OTHER NATIONS WITH "GENOCIDE" WHILE IT IS OBVIOUS WITH HISTORICAL SCIENTIFIC DOCUMENTS THAT THE TURKS DID NEVER COMMIT ANY KIND OF GENOCIDE!

Re: Türk Düşmanları İle Ön-Türk Tarihi Hakkında Bir Tartışma

MesajGönderilme zamanı: 02 Tem 2015, 01:05
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Petros Houhoulis yazdı:You clearly don't understand English. If the following sentence:



Was put on English exams in Turkey, all Turks would fail to understand it...


Hahaha:) Denial problems, does it hurt in your behind, when the European Court of Human Rights CLEARLY ADMITS THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GENOCIDE IN THIS SITUATION?

Keep on with the denial stuff, you make your self only more and more ridiculous, have fun :)

Re: Türk Düşmanları İle Ön-Türk Tarihi Hakkında Bir Tartışma

MesajGönderilme zamanı: 02 Tem 2015, 01:54
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Queen B yazdı:I see very well, thank you.
You didn't even read what I wrote.

Your title is misleading, since you imply that ECoHR ruled that there was no genocide.
The ECoHR simple ruled that Perincek's sayings fall under the ''freedom of expression'' category, and he was faulty criminilized, based on Swiss law.

The European court of Human Rights have not any ''say" to if there was a genocide or not. This is a job for ICJ (International Court of Justice)
The ECoHR deals with applications alleging that a contracting state has breached one or more of the human rights provisions concerning civil and political rights set out in the Convention and its protocols. (in this case, freedom of expression)


See bold. As used in the Swiss Criminal code.


Read it and have fun with the denial stress you are experiencing:)

The Court pointed out that it was not called upon to address either the veracity of the massacres and deportations perpetrated against the Armenian people by the Ottoman Empire from 1915 onwards, or the appropriateness of legally characterising those acts as “genocide”, within the meaning of the relevant Article of the Criminal Code.

In this connection, the Court clearly distinguished the present case from those concerning the negation of the crimes of the Holocaust.

If you would have read the full contents of the PDF file published BY the European Court of Human Rights about this case you would have seen what the Swiss Criminal Code is equal to. Let me educate you guys step by step.

The non scientific false and hate crime(against Turks) contents of the Swiss Criminal Code:

[QUOTE=http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/webservices/content/pdf/003-4613832-5581451]The association “Switzerland-Armenia” filed a criminal complaint against him on 15 July 2005. On 9
March 2007 the Lausanne Police Court found Mr Perinçek guilty of racial discrimination within the meaning of the Swiss Criminal Code, finding that his motives were of a racist tendency and did not contribute to the historical debate.

Mr Perinçek lodged an appeal that was dismissed by the Criminal Cassation Division of the Vaud Cantonal Court. In that court’s view, the Armenian genocide, like the Jewish genocide, was a proven historical fact, recognised by the Swiss legislature on the date of the adoption of Article 261bis of the Criminal Code. The courts did not therefore need to refer to the work of historians in order to accept its existence. The Cassation Division emphasised that Mr Perinçek had only denied the characterisation as genocide without calling into question the existence of the massacres and deportations of Armenians.

http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/webservices/content/pdf/003-4613832-5581451[/QUOTE]

After the appropiate NEUTRAL RESEARCH of The European Court of Human Rights, they decided that the "deportations and massacres committed to the Armenians" IS NOT EQUAL TO THE TERM 'Genocide". The Swiss Criminal Code describes the events as "genocide", and the European Court of Human Rights decides that the Swiss Criminal Code is WRONG.

The Decision of the European Court of Human Rights:

[QUOTE=http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/webservices/content/pdf/003-4613832-5581451]
The Court took the view that the term “genocide” as used in the relevant Article of the Swiss Criminal Code was likely to raise doubts as to the precision required by Article 10 § 2 of the Convention.

The Court pointed out that it was not called upon to address either the veracity of the massacres and deportations perpetrated against the Armenian people by the Ottoman Empire from 1915 onwards, or the appropriateness of legally characterising those acts as “genocide”, within the meaning of the relevant Article of the Criminal Code.

In this connection, the Court clearly distinguished the present case from those concerning the negation of the crimes of the Holocaust.

http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/webservices/content/pdf/003-4613832-5581451[/QUOTE]

Re: Türk Düşmanları İle Ön-Türk Tarihi Hakkında Bir Tartışma

MesajGönderilme zamanı: 02 Tem 2015, 02:10
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XenophobicPrussian yazdı:So much ignorance. Most blacks lynched in the US were serious criminals, there was a case of a black guy being lynched for whistling at a white women, but again, most were serious criminals including murderers.

For your information, the Nazis also wanted to simply deport Jews first, for the same reasons the Turks deported Armenians, treason. The US and UK didn't allow them to, so they turned to mass murder.


You are the ignorant one. Look at the following video, and see how and with what kind of racist system, the US state is committing a GENOCIDE ON THE AFRICAN AMERICAN POPULATION:



Today, not 1000 years ago, in the so called modern times of the US state, the Police of the US state is MURDERING ONE AFRICAN AMERICAN PERSON PER 28 HOURS, THIS IS A STATISTICALLY PROVEN FACT! If they act like this today, what do you think about how the US state performed their sytematic genocide on the African American people in the 1930's, 1940's or even earlier in the 18th-19th centuries? Do you have a soul to accept these facts? Or do you only have the urge to spread your lies against the Turks because of the Hate Crime feelings you have towards the Turk Nation?

The Jews did not kill anyone in Germany, nor did the Jews wore the uniforms of enemy state armies, nor did the Jews try to divide the German state, their only problem was that their companies became richer and richer and began to dominate the economy of the racist Nazi state which was a puppet of the UK and the US. After the loss of Germany in the First World War, the constitution(The main laws) were written by the UK(=US). The UK state was using their secret agent Hitler, to bring down the economical rise of the Jews just before the Second World War. These Jews were of Khazar Turk origin, and this was the racist reason for the Germanic UK/US/Nazi's to perform a genocide on these Jews.

Re: Türk Düşmanları İle Ön-Türk Tarihi Hakkında Bir Tartışma

MesajGönderilme zamanı: 02 Tem 2015, 02:16
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XenophobicPrussian yazdı:What is a hate crime is importing foreigners like you against the will of the people and making Europeans first minorities in their own countries then extinct. That's the real hate crime, and that's the latest genocide going on in the world.


You only keep denying my comments, it only shows how unsufficient you are. Read my previous comments of the details of the situation that was present during the FIRST WORLD WAR, and what the Armenians did before the Deportation. I do not feel it necessary to repeat my arguments hundreds of times, it is meaningless. If you prefer, you can keep on with the denying strategy, altough this will never change the real truth and the scientific facts, dont worry about it.

Re: Türk Düşmanları İle Ön-Türk Tarihi Hakkında Bir Tartışma

MesajGönderilme zamanı: 02 Tem 2015, 02:27
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Petros Houhoulis yazdı:I'll post the link when I'll find it. I never said that Rum means either "Rome" or "Greek". The Ottomans did intermarry with others many times after they left Central Asia...


Then until you come up with the link i am officially declaring you as a liar. You do not even know about the meaning of "Paternal Ancestry", and how the Turk Tribe System works, therefore your statements have no value in my eyes.

Re: Türk Düşmanları İle Ön-Türk Tarihi Hakkında Bir Tartışma

MesajGönderilme zamanı: 02 Tem 2015, 02:31
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Petros Houhoulis yazdı:2% is not a "high percentage" but even in that case haplogrous have very weak relationship to ethnicities.


What do you think about the 57,9% of J found among the Azerbaijani Turks, or the 47,6% of J found among the Karai Turks, or the 42,5% of J found among the Kumik Turks, or the 34% of J found among the Uygur Turks?

Re: Türk Düşmanları İle Ön-Türk Tarihi Hakkında Bir Tartışma

MesajGönderilme zamanı: 02 Tem 2015, 02:36
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Togarma yazdı:I also read some where as their paternal haglogroup is R1a. But j2 is also not suprise which can be found high percentages in Turkic tribes.


Not even one modern nation can be defined with a single Y-DNA haplogroup. On the contrary, there are only 3 main anthropological groups, West Eurasian Skull Type, East Eurasian Skull Type, African Skull Type. The majority of the Proto Turks(Huns, Sakha's and earlier) belonged to the West Eurasian Skull Type. This West Eurasian Skull Type is equal to specific subgroups of the Y-DNA haplogroups like E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, R, T. Also keep in mind, that the genetic mutations that declare the Y-DNA haplogroups occurred tens of thousands of years ago and the fact that the oldest human language is the Proto Turk language of the Sumerians.

Re: Türk Düşmanları İle Ön-Türk Tarihi Hakkında Bir Tartışma

MesajGönderilme zamanı: 04 Tem 2015, 00:13
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Petros Houhoulis yazdı:Source? A serious one, not a Turkish please...


All the data i provided are data from the research articles at viewtopic.php?f=229&t=12267 and viewtopic.php?f=229&t=12288. This website performs very solid research and analysis, all the data they present are data from the papers of internationally published scientific studies. At the articles you can find all sources. The data which you are quoting my previous post, is only a little part of the complete research. The following data were present in my previous post:

57,9% of J found among the Azerbaijani Turks
SOURCE: A genetic landscape reshaped by recent events: Y-Chromosomal insights into Central Asia

47,6% of J found among the Karai Turks
SOURCE: Genetic Study of East European Karaite Communities

42,5% of J found among the Kumik Turks
SOURCE: The Caucasus as an assymmetric semipermeable barrier to ancient migrations

34% of J found among the Uygur Turks
SOURCE: Y-Chromosome distributions among populations in Northwest China identify significant contribution from Central Asian pastoralists and lesser influence of western Eurasians

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http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showth ... asty/page3

Re: Türk Düşmanları İle Ön-Türk Tarihi Hakkında Bir Tartışma

MesajGönderilme zamanı: 04 Tem 2015, 00:22
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Petros Houhoulis yazdı:You'd better learn proper English first in order to be able to comprehend some legal decisions like the one you tried to "explain" in another thread, before you start applying words to others...


Off topic message, i do not worship the English language as you do, i advise you to stop trying to change the subject of the topic with such non logical statements, you are being ridiculous, you are so full with hate crime feelings against Turks, that you will never accept any truth which would be in the favour of Turks. Only people that are stuck, and cant produce any more of their lies will try such approaches, deny how much you want, you are very easy to spot, so dont worry, i know how your thinking system works :)

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showth ... ost3671143