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Re: Türk Düşmanları İle Ön-Türk Tarihi Hakkında Bir Tartışma

Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 30 Haz 2015, 23:40

Шишани yazdı:Uyghurs are highly unrelated to Turkish Turks.


I guess you do not know of the Eretnid State in the 14th century(and later) which was founded by Alaeddin Eretna. The Eretnids were of Uygur Turk origin, and their state was build in the middle of Central Anatolia. My advise is that you need to train your self in Turk history, before making such ridiculous comments.

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Re: Türk Düşmanları İle Ön-Türk Tarihi Hakkında Bir Tartışma

Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 01 Tem 2015, 01:39

Gilgamesh900 yazdı:I don't see anything remotely Turanid. More like Dinaric admixed with Alpinoid.


Kırgız and Crimean Tatar Turks Whom Look Like Atatürk

KYRGYZ TURK MAN IN THE MIDDLE LOOKS LIKE ATATURK

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KIRGIZ GIRL FROM CHINA HAS THE SAME FACIAL TYPE AS ATATURK

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Crimean Tatar Mustafa Abdülcemil Kırımoğlu Looks Like Ataturk

Resim

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Re: Türk Düşmanları İle Ön-Türk Tarihi Hakkında Bir Tartışma

Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 01 Tem 2015, 01:44

aksakallicocuk yazdı:davutoglu is a yoruk


Davutoğlu is of Karaim Khazar Turk origin.
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Re: Türk Düşmanları İle Ön-Türk Tarihi Hakkında Bir Tartışma

Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 01 Tem 2015, 16:35

Mustafa yazdı:Dumb Mongol wannabe masturbates with Mesopotamian y-dna. Are you on high, brown-face Turk? Turkish identity crisis and inferiority complex. Poor owd durk turd turk donkey. HA HA HA... Too many J1 Semite and J2 Meso Turks. Tri-racial subhuman Turks. Bit-brains losers.


You are a simple Turk hating person, your cursing does not solve or proof anything. Simple discriminator that does not have any logical reasoning skills. Watch this program of Cenk Uygur(The Young Turks), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0jILZMnQ7o, and you will see yourself in the mirror. You are the same kind as the bad intended stupid Bill O'Reilly, who is very disappointed with the invention of Facebook, Google News, etcetera just because Foxnews can not spread their lies anymore.

I am assuring you that in the modern age, you can not fool anyone with your Turk hating brain cells.

I guess you did not see the results of the final study of Allentoft et al 2015, which found Y-DNA Haplogroup J2 among the ancient skeletal remains of the Iron Age Sakha Turks of the Altai / South Siberia Region between 800 BCE - 100 AD. Read the articles at link Ancient DNA in Altai Republic region for more detailed information.

Also, among the Avar Turks, 94,0% of Y-DNA Haplogroup J1 was found. For the haplogroup J results among other Turk tribes read the following data, if you are interested in finding the truth:

Haplogroup J:

http://www.turktoresi.com/viewtopic.php?f=229&t=12267#p15199 yazdı:
-Among the Avar Turks, Haplogrup J is found with 72%(30/42), 90%(13/15) and 94,0%(17/18) frequencies. The subgroups belong to J1, J2 and J2b.

-Among the Uygur Turks Haplogrup J2 is found with 34%,

Among the Uzbek Turks in the Balkh region of Afghanisthan, Haplogroup J2 is found with a percentage of 60,0%(3/5).

-Among the Uzbek Turks Haplogrup J and J2 is found with 34,8%.

-Among the Azerbaijan Turks in Azerbaijan, Haplogroup J is found with a percentage of 57,9%(11/19).

-Among the Kumik Turks, the total frequency of Y-DNA Haplogroup J1+J2 is 42,5%(31/73).

-Among the Kuban Nogay Turks, the total frequency of Y-DNA Haplogroup J1+J2 is 37,9%(33/87).

-Among the Balkar Turks, the total frequency of Y-DNA Haplogroup J1+J2 is 19,3%(26/135).

-Among the Karachay Turks, the total frequency of Y-DNA Haplogroup J1+J2 is 18,9%(13/69).

-Among a group of Kazakh Turks, the Y-DNA Haplogroup J is found with a frequency of 18%.

-The descendants of the founder of the Qajar royal family, the grandsons of Mohammad Khan Qajar and Fath-Ali Shah Qajar were tested for Y-DNA, their haplogroup was J1.

-Among the Karai Turks, J1 and J2 is found with 47,6%(10/21).

-Among the Chuvash Turks J is found with 15,9%(7/44).

-Among the Kazan Tatar Turks Haplogroup J is found with 15,1%(8/53).

-Among the Tuzmazinsky Tatar Turks Haplogroup J is found with 10,0%(5/50).

-Between the years 800 BCE - 100 AD, among the Sakha Turks from the Altai Republic region, the Y-DNA haplogroup J2a is found.

-Among the Proto Turks, in Hungary, during the years between 1270 - 1100 BCE, J2a is found.

Source: http://www.turktoresi.com/viewtopic.php?f=229&t=12288
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Re: Türk Düşmanları İle Ön-Türk Tarihi Hakkında Bir Tartışma

Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 01 Tem 2015, 16:46

Petros Houhoulis yazdı:They were indeed descended from a Greek noble from the male line, from the time when the Ottomans were still subservient to the Seljuks, and some early Ottoman sultan was proud of his Greek origins (perhaps Mehmed II the conqueror himself, who was probably baptized Christian before his death too) but in any case most of the women in the Sultanate were of foreign origins, with only a handful of Turkish-speaking women among them...


Are you a fortune teller, or do you get your sources from a mysterious kind of magical spirit? Science needs historical facts, with your trolling hate crime comments you can not fool anyone.

Lets continue with the scientific reality. The paternal ancestry of the Ottoman dynasty is of the Kayi tribe of the ancient Turks. "Rum" means "Rome", not "Greek", and the Ottoman provinces like "Rum-eli", simply means "The regions that were previously under control of Roman empire". The paternal ancestry does not change when an Ottoman sultan marries a foreign girl in the "harem". So, the women does not have anything to do with paternal ancestry. To conclude, it is very obvious that the Ottoman dynasty was just like their population of Oghuz Turkmen origin.
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Re: Türk Düşmanları İle Ön-Türk Tarihi Hakkında Bir Tartışma

Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 01 Tem 2015, 16:57

Sockorer yazdı:Very good.

Then I better not hear any whining when we deport you filthy wogs to your country of origin.


Is there a war ongoing from whatever country you are coming from? Did the Turks stab your people in the back, of with whom they lived for dozens of years in peace together in the country you are living in? Did the Turks wore the uniform of the enemy of your country and join the enemy army and participated in a war that is presently ongoing in your country, and did the Turks kill thousands of your civil innocent people in a non war period? No! No! No! Then your short comment does only show your unhuman and non logical hate crime against the Turks. You can not reply to the contents of the arguments i wrote down above, so your words do not have any kind of value indeed.
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Re: Türk Düşmanları İle Ön-Türk Tarihi Hakkında Bir Tartışma

Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 01 Tem 2015, 17:23

XenophobicPrussian yazdı:Was Armenia already independent by this time? I'm pretty sure it was still part of the Russian Empire in 1919. If not, I'd probably say it is genocide.

If there was a country called "Armenia" and said Armenians in Turkey were forcefully relocated to this country, I wouldn't call it genocide, as they still get to exist as a group. The killing would just be mass murder, not really genocide. Again, if Armenia wasn't independent then, I would consider it a genocide.


First of all, the Armenians got deported to Syria, which was also part of the Ottoman Empire in 1915. So, the Armenians got deported from several Ottoman regions to a single Ottoman region.

And for the refreshing of our minds, the date of the First World War was 1914-1918. The Ottoman Empire was being invaded by the English and Russian armies. The Armenians joined the English, French and Russian armies, and officially wore their uniforms, these are historically proven facts. The Armenians attacked thousands of non military civil villages full with innocent Turks and Kurds, they burned cities like Van and Erzurum completely, and raped, killed the innocent populations(like they did in the more recent Khocali Genocide in 26 February 1992), their own neighbours without hesitating while the Turk and Kurd men were not present in these villages because they were in duty in the Ottoman Army.

What did the Ottoman State decided to do? Only deportation! To give a present day modern example, look at the random killings in the US performed against the African people. Without any kind of reason, the US state is just randomly killing African people just because they are racists. Did you know that the Nazi movement(whom performed the Genocide on Jews) was officially a puppet of the US and the UK states? What would the US state or any other West European state have done if the present day Armenians would have killed and raped thousands of innocent civil Americans, when there was a Third World War ongoing against other enemy states? Deportation in such a complicated situation(First World War, 1914-1918) only proofs more and more how merciful the Turks werer and still are. We Turks defended our country against the enemies who tried to take over our country by invading our country, we did not allow this to happen.
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Re: Türk Düşmanları İle Ön-Türk Tarihi Hakkında Bir Tartışma

Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 01 Tem 2015, 17:30

Sockorer yazdı:There's probably going to be some bloodshed due to the belligerence of non-Whites.


What an empty and meaningless comment, very ridiculous. Do you have some kind of an automated message composer?
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Re: Türk Düşmanları İle Ön-Türk Tarihi Hakkında Bir Tartışma

Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 01 Tem 2015, 17:34

Petros Houhoulis yazdı:I wouldn't be afraid if I were you. The Germans are known for massacres in an industrial scale...


You guys are openly provoking hate crime, which is against the law in many West European countries. Does the forum administrator allow this kind of unhuman and non logical hate crime provoking comments?
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Re: Türk Düşmanları İle Ön-Türk Tarihi Hakkında Bir Tartışma

Mesajgönderen TurkmenCopur » 01 Tem 2015, 17:50

Queen B yazdı:How manipulative is your post.
It's not a decision whether there was a genocide or not by ECoHR.

Its was a verdict between Perincek and Swizerland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perin%C3%A7ek_v._Switzerland


Are you blind, cant you read the following statements of the European Court of Human Rights? Let me rephrase the statements of the European Court of Human Rights:

STATEMENT 1:

The Court took the view that the term “genocide” as used in the relevant Article of the Swiss Criminal Code was likely to raise doubts as to the precision required by Article 10 § 2 of the Convention.

STATEMENT 2:

The Court pointed out that it was not called upon to address either the veracity of the massacres and deportations perpetrated against the Armenian people by the Ottoman Empire from 1915 onwards, or the appropriateness of legally characterising those acts as “genocide”, within the meaning of the relevant Article of the Criminal Code.

STATEMENT 3:

In this connection, the Court clearly distinguished the present case from those concerning the negation of the crimes of the Holocaust.

By the way, the official source for the results of the European Court of Human Rights about this matter are to be found at the following pdf file: http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/webservices/c ... 32-5581451
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